tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post2494459165053424771..comments2023-04-29T09:47:48.006+02:00Comments on PrimeBase XT: At last we have a MySQL Foundation, its called The Open Database AllianceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-52378876278186128052009-05-22T20:46:21.647+02:002009-05-22T20:46:21.647+02:00"Paul McCullagh of PrimeBase XT writes, At last we..."Paul McCullagh of PrimeBase XT writes, At last we have a MySQL Foundation, its called The Open Database Alliance. [...]"<br /><br /><A HREF="http://www.pythian.com/news/2547/log-buffer-147-a-carnival-of-the-vanities-for-dbas" REL="nofollow">Log Buffer #147</A>Log Bufferhttp://www.pythian.com/news/about-log-buffer/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-3929988865778412952009-05-13T22:39:00.000+02:002009-05-13T22:39:00.000+02:00Hi Karlsson,
I agree with your comments on busine...Hi Karlsson,<br /><br />I agree with your comments on business. It pays my salary as well, as you mentioned :)<br /><br />My comment was more a statement of fact rather then a criticism.<br /><br />So to be honest, what I am saying is that MySQL/Suns business motivations are not helping mine... ;)<br /><br />But that's life (well, business anyway).<br /><br />And I am not complaining, because (as I mentioned) you guys have been, and are, a great support to us wherever that is possible.<br /><br />However, I do believe a different (more independent) community strategy would have been possible, and would have been successful.<br /><br />I am saying this now because I believe with the acquisition by Oracle, and the founding of the Open Database Alliance, this opportunity is now gone forever.<br /><br />But I know that this not due to lack of effort by Giuseppe and the other MySQL community guys, who have always done a great job!Paul McCullaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476275147692948727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-81731829196990884592009-05-13T22:10:00.000+02:002009-05-13T22:10:00.000+02:00Paul!
I'd just like to Chime in on Henriks com...Paul!<br /><br /> I'd just like to Chime in on Henriks comments. I would also like to add that although, as you say, "any download offered by Sun [snip] is about business", this is not that different from what you are doing. The business model offered by, say, yuorself, is different, but it is still business involved here. And it has business implicaties, like it or not.<br /><br />And that said, that is not necessarily a bad thing. Business is what pays the monthly bills for most of us. And even if someone, at times, look down on institutional investors and venture capitalists and such, these guys provide the capital that one can live on to develop a successful business and useful software, be it open source or not. And they do take risks in doing so.<br /><br />And finally, let's not forget the MySQL users who are not really developers, or if they are, they don't have the time or the resources to deal with MySQL details in terms of bug fixing, choosing a version, monitoring etc. They just want something that works. A commercial offering isn't such a bad thing for them, and they are contributing by buying from the same people who develop the software and fix the bugs.<br /><br />And in the last case, this might well be Sun / MySQL. Or someone else, really. But buying MySQL support, services etc. is also a way of contributing. And a business model makes that happen (i.e. without a business, there is no way for these people to contribute).<br /><br />/KarlssonKarlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874338187076980133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-52858124161192431822009-05-13T22:01:00.000+02:002009-05-13T22:01:00.000+02:00Yup, makes sense from that angle.Yup, makes sense from that angle.Paul McCullaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476275147692948727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-13064385375014375412009-05-13T21:54:00.000+02:002009-05-13T21:54:00.000+02:00Oh, btw, as a loyal Sun employee I should explain ...Oh, btw, as a loyal Sun employee I should explain why it is the way it is: Currently Sun (formerly MySQL Ab) actually gives a lifecycle guarantee also on the community server, plus customers get support also for community server installations when buying MySQL Enterprise. This is the main reason the community server cannot just take input randomly from the community, but in essence it is just a freeware version of the Enterprise server. It must contain only stuff we can support ourselves.<br /><br />But I agree that this then creates some other problems. In an ideal world there would have been (earlier than now) a true community server, that needn't be so strongly controlled by one player.hingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09201666166374161923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-44801140564059401442009-05-13T21:48:00.000+02:002009-05-13T21:48:00.000+02:00Hi Henrik,
Of course I remember lunch with you :)...Hi Henrik,<br /><br />Of course I remember lunch with you :)<br /><br />Well, I would have liked to announce I was successful with my efforts.<br /><br />But otherwise, yes, we are making progress...Paul McCullaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476275147692948727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24359421.post-26935034467744783622009-05-13T21:29:00.000+02:002009-05-13T21:29:00.000+02:00Hi Paul
I wasn't aware you had had such an active...Hi Paul<br /><br />I wasn't aware you had had such an active role in pushing a MySQL community. Well, seems like now you got something that you were hoping for. Good for you.<br /><br />You may not recognize me, but we happened to be at the same lunch table once in Santa Clara, and you explained your design philosophies about simplicity. I know you will certainly have a great role in the MySQL Community - and who knows - also as a commercial storage engine.<br /><br />henrik, finlandhingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09201666166374161923noreply@blogger.com